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Going forward - IETF work on internal process reform
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- Subject: Going forward - IETF work on internal process reform
- From: Harald Alvestrand - IETF Chair <chair@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 13:35:27 -0500
- Delivery-date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:59:12 +0200
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The IESG presented some proposals for concrete next steps in the work of
making the IETF work better in Minneapolis:
- Aiming for more functional differentiation
- Changing the roles of the WG Chairs
- Instituting more mechanisms for early cross-area review
(all presentations are available from
After the IETF, the IESG will continue to encourage work on these ideas,
working with the community to achieve a better IETF.
FEEDBACK FROM THE PLENARY
We got a lot of feedback from the community at the plenaries - the overall
feedback was that people liked the ideas, had concerns with some aspects of
them, and were quite eager to discuss the ideas further before making
permanent changes to the way the IETF works.
At the Thursday plenary, we did some straw polls of the room - my rough
estimates on the responses were that almost everyone who stated an opinion
favoured working on review mechanisms, and a large majority favoured
working on the WG chair role (approx 60% in favour, with 10% being
skeptical, and 30% not having an opinion). The approx. 27 people who spoke
at the mike raised a number of specific issues; we will attempt to address
these in the continued work on the proposals raised.
Among the speakers at the mike, several were concerned with the speed of
change - whether the organization would be able to absorb the amount of
changes we proposed placing on it - and several concerned with the
possibility of unintended side effects of the changes we proposed.
Moving quickly is less important than moving with community consensus.
But move we must, recognizing that we have to make evolutionary changes in
the manner in which we work together to achieve useful outcomes for the
IETF, allowing for the community to provide overall direction to the
(Minutes of the plenary are on
The IESG is making the following recommendations:
- Open community discussion of the proposals is encouraged, and welcome.
The list email@example.com (firstname.lastname@example.org to
subscribe, Mailman conventions) will be used for the initial discussion;
soon, specific efforts will create their own mailing lists as needed.
- The further work will involve community discussion, more detailed
proposals, and experiments (as far as the current rules permit).
We will continue to pursue the WG-chair and Review proposals.
- We will continue to make our plans in an open conversation with the
As always, we welcome other proposals from the community.